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Comments: 19

February 5, 2013 1:28pm by doublecrownking

So this is what I need to get full travel out of my DB Air...
When will the 267mm be available?

February 5, 2013 1:40pm by doublecrownking

The swap operation between the normal volume and this XV one can be done easily or is it a hard task to do?

February 5, 2013 3:47pm by MountainSensei

Hell yah! This is exactly what my Tracer 2 needs! Her rear end has been begging for a bigger can to slide up and down on.

February 5, 2013 4:00pm by rgretchen

It should be user-swappable... I've removed the air can on my DBair and its pretty simple... I've been waiting for this mod for my Intense 951... can't wait to try it out.

February 5, 2013 4:11pm by CaneCreekCyclingComponents

Doublecrownking,

Depending on you bike's leverage ratio and riding style, the HV can might be able to help you get full travel. Our first batch of can sizes will be the 200, 215, and 240's. We will have more sizes coming in soon. It will be an easy swap. The video explaining installing volume adjusters is pretty much the same procedure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYNPBGeGkE&feature=player_embedded

MountainSensei,

Make sure you use plenty of lube on those seals.

February 5, 2013 10:48pm by kudryaviy

I'm looking forward to the 222x70 size for my Big Hit HD :)

February 6, 2013 11:25am by Fredro1

I have a 2011 sc carbon nomad, and a 2013 sc carbon v10. Both with ccdb air shocks that already feel amazing! Do i really need this upgrade for my bikes, and how much $ does it cost? where do i order???

February 6, 2013 11:40am by CaneCreekCyclingComponents

Fredro1,

The XV outer can is designed as an tuning option for bikes that are either not utilizing full travel based on suspension design with a standard volume air can or for the rider that wants the ability to run more high speed compression in conjunction with the more linear air spring curve of the XV. If you are happy with you current setup, great. Our goal is to provide the most adjustable suspension products available to help you, the rider, define their great. The cans retail for $40 and are available for purchase on the web store or by calling our sales staff at 800-234-2725.

February 6, 2013 6:11pm by doublecrownking

My bike has a 2:1 leverage ration and about 1cm of unused travel, even with the High Speed Compression completely off.
Just one more question, is the XV can outer diameter the same as the original one?

Thanks!

February 7, 2013 11:10am by CaneCreekCyclingComponents

Doublecrownking,

Assuming that your sag is correct, sounds like you could be a great candidate for the XV can. The can is 3mm larger outside diameter than the standard air can.

Thanks!

March 16, 2013 7:41pm by bambijarv

I have a 2006 orange patriot iv not set the shock up yet as I just got it. In percentage terms how much extra volume is the can giving? Would it be suitable for single pivot like my 215 X 63 orange patriot? Also any base starting point for shock setting as I can't fine any on the forum. I will run 30% sag and do 70% cross country and 30% aggressive CC and down hill.
Thanks
bam

March 18, 2013 9:55am by CaneCreekCyclingComponents

Bambijarv,

So the XV can is a tuning option and might be needed if you are not getting full travel or utilizing much HSC even with proper sag and the higher flow inner air can. A base setting you can try is this:

HSR- 1.5-1.75 turns in from all out. HSR controls the shock from the
bottom of the stroke if you feel like you're getting bucked add .25
clockwise till the feeling goes away.
LSR - 8-12 clicks from all out
HSC - 1.5-2.0 turns in from all out. If too harsh and not reaching bottom
open counter clockwise. Allowing the shock to get full stroke.
LSC - 10-13 clicks in from all out

Let us know how it works out!

April 20, 2013 8:08am by kudryaviy

"
The XV is currently offered in three sizes, with more coming soon:

200 x 57mm (7.87 x 2.25”)
215 x 63mm (8.5 x 2.5”)
240 x 76mm (9.5 x 3.0”)
"

When will the size of 222x70?! It is very necessary...

April 22, 2013 9:16am by CaneCreekCyclingComponents

Kudryaviy,

We are expecting all of the XV can sizes to be in mid to late May.

Thanks!

April 24, 2013 8:50am by bambijarv

Hi thanks for the setting I have tried some setting from T F Tuned too which work real well I am still in the process of experimenting with different options tho
This works well for 2006 orange patriot
HSC 1 turn
LSC 11 clicks
HSR 3 turns
LSR 15 clicks

I get full travel from the shock so I very happy with it to achieve this I reduced the pressure a little which give me 33% sag.

April 26, 2013 3:41pm by Akira1980

Hi,
Ellsworth moment - a good candidate?
I run 33% sag and HSC off all the way.
About 7mm unused travel. Leverage ratio 2.67:1.
Though, makes me wonder about the Dare HSC tune- 2.5

April 26, 2013 4:07pm by CaneCreekCyclingComponents

Akira1980,

Let the air out and cycle the shock to see how much stroke the shock actually has. Seven mm's might be a normal amount of gap between the o-ring and end of shaft at bottom for your particular shock size. If this is not the case, an XV can might help you get the last bit of travel out and/or allow you to use more HSC.

Thanks

April 27, 2013 9:21am by Akira1980

Did that - the shock travels full 57 mm.
Another question please - When the shock reaches full travel (57 minus ~ 7mm) it feels really harsh, like a harsh bottoming. Reducing HSR to 1 fixes that. Any connection to 0 HSC and not using full travel?

April 29, 2013 9:01am by CaneCreekCyclingComponents

Akrira1980,

Well it sounds like you could benefit from the XV can provided that your shock does already have the higher flowing inner air can if you are not getting to bottom with your current sag and HSC setting. Reducing HRS should have zero effect on bottom out feel on the shock. Running 0 HRC provides very little damping when the shock's shaft speed is fast. This situation would occur on a big hit and would allow the shock to get through all of its travel rather easily. Increasing the HSC would provide damping to slow down the shaft speed down so as to not "blow" through all of the travel. Hope that this helps you out!

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